We’re talking about the greatest chain of ice-capped peaks in the world – from the Himalayas to Tian Shan on the border of China and Kyrgyzstan – and satellite measurements show that they have lost NO ice in the past 10 years.
Mt Everest region
“The discovery has stunned scientists, who had believed that around 50bn tonnes of meltwater were being shed each year and not being replaced by new snowfall,” says this article in the Guardian.
Not significantly different from zero
Bristol University glaciologist Prof Jonathan Bamber, who was not part of the research team, said: “The very unexpected result was the negligible mass loss from high mountain Asia, which is not significantly different from zero.”
And yet, in 2009 the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) mistakenly stated that all of the Himalayan glaciers would disappear in just 26 years, by 2035.
(See also world-misled-over-melting-himalayan-glaciers/ )
Why the discrepancy?
“Until now, estimates of meltwater loss for all the world’s 200,000 glaciers were based on extrapolations of data from a few hundred monitored on the ground,” the article explains.
But “extrapolation is really tough as only a handful of lower-altitude glaciers are monitored and there are thousands there very high up.”
In other words, we’ve been basing our dire global warming predictions – and taxing ourselves to death, and regulating ourselves to death – on “only a handful of lower-altitude glaciers.”
Amazingly, even in the face of these new revelations, the lead scientist for the report insists that the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious concern.
“People should be just as worried about the melting of the world’s ice as they were before,” admonishes Professor John Wahr of the University of Colorado.
I don’t think I trust Professor Wahr.
See entire article:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/08/glaciers-mountains?cat=environment&type=article
Thanks to Del A. Hilber for this link
Many Himalayan glaciers are advancing
This story doesn’t mention it, but many Himalayan glaciers are advancing.
In a defiant act of political incorrectness, 230 glaciers in the western Himalayas – including Mount Everest, K2 and Nanga Parbat – are actually growing.
Not only are the glaciers advancing, 87 of the glaciers have surged forward since the 1960s, says a recent article in Discovery News.
See:
http://www.iceagenow.com/Glaciers_Growing_in_Western_Himalayas.htm
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That is adding to the already increasing sea level from warming oceans? I thought the global oceans had cooled and dropped over the past few years? I guess I will just continue to not believe anything I read – ever.
This is just plain nutty. Of course they have to throw in that every other glacier and ice cap around the world is melting away. Then they go on to say that all the water going into the oceans is contributing to its rise. Yet, the latest figures show there has been no rise and possibly a slight drop. No wonder the average person is totally skeptical of everything they hear.
If the water has risen by a metre in the Indian ocean, why hasnt it risen by a metre at our local beach. That made me think about the rule that water finds it’s own level AROUND THE WORLD. I ended up having to ask myself if I poured a glass of water out on the floor did it stay in a little pile or spread out. Maybe some of the scientists would have us believe is stays in a little pile in the Indian Ocean. Haaaaahaaaahaaaa
Of course most melting, if it takes place, will happen at the most accessible, lowest glaciers.
You don’t need a PhD to know that and you don’t need anything more than common sense to hypothesise it.
If the world’s ‘leading scientists’ were so thick as to think that melting at 5000m = melting at 7500m then they really aren’t worth a penny.
Go look at Alpine snow depths on lower and upper slopes of ski resorts – you’ll see no loss at upper depths through most of the 16 week season and occasionally significantly less lower down.
None of that means that the low-down melting will continue. If things get a bit cooler, they might start advancing again.
Honorary degree for me please!!
they are amazed shocked etc.ROFLMAO!
IF they had ever really done the work needed to prove …yeah Prove! what they were happy to insist was a true crisis etc etc..
and NOT rely on low placed minimal sensors and a whole Pile of Crap from carefully tailored Models..by extremely Biased model writers. who rely on Bad news for their livelihood and fame speaking tours etc.
and we are suposed to believe for a second that this so called NEW??? sat data was entirely unavailable ever before?
Cynical? me?
You Bet!
what a steaming pile of
lying/ two faced/ ratcunning /devious /pack of self serving/ agenda driven mongrels, and I am pulling punches being nice in public:-)
““People should be just as worried about the melting of the world’s ice as they were before,” admonishes Professor John Wahr of the University of Colorado.”
I beleave in global warming almigthty, Truth of the truth…
And they call themself “scientist” what a JOKE!
10 years! This is approximately the time since the warming (due to the Sun) stopped. The peak was in 1998.
IMO this is more confirmation that we’re entering now a cooling period… AND CO2 has *nothing* to do with it.
wahr is a real faggot for telling people they should be worried
That what I always thought – in fact, many high altitude Himalayan glaciers are growing. The mass balance is on the increase there – and in most other locations. Don’t ever listen to these left wing mainstream wachoes.
All of you people writing here that you do not believe in global warming or that oceans are rising over the land, are considered crazy by all scientists that believe that we are all going to die of heat and drown by rising sea level. What will they say when their city is covered with ice during the coming ice age?
[...] Re: ClimateGate for dummies! Global Warming is a Fraud! Himalayas have lost no ice in past 10 years We’re talking about the greatest chain of ice-capped peaks in the world – from the Himalayas to Tian Shan on the border of China and Kyrgyzstan – and satellite measurements show that they have lost NO ice in the past 10 years. …in 2009 the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) mistakenly stated that all of the Himalayan glaciers would disappear in just 26 years, by 2035. “Until now, estimates of meltwater loss for all the world’s 200,000 glaciers were based on extrapolations of data from a few hundred monitored on the ground,” the article explains. But “extrapolation is really tough as only a handful of lower-altitude glaciers are monitored and there are thousands there very high up.” In a defiant act of political incorrectness, 230 glaciers in the western Himalayas – including Mount Everest, K2 and Nanga Parbat – are actually growing. Not only are the glaciers advancing, 87 of the glaciers have surged forward since the 1960s, says a recent article in Discovery News. Himalayas have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows [...]