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“We’ll get more winter this year than we did last year,” said the Weather Network’s director of meteorology Chris Scott.

And that means a return to more “typical” historic conditions of cold and snow gripping much of the country, said Scott.

Scott and the network’s team of meteorologists are predicting that most of Atlantic Canada will see higher temperatures and more snow than usual, while the northern Prairies, Northwest Territories and western parts of Nunavut will dip below their 30-year temperature average.

The Great Lakes region and Gulf of St. Lawrence should also get more of the white stuff, he said.

But for the rest of the country, he said precipitation and temperatures should, for the most part, remain within historic norms — a return to reality after last year`s relatively mild winter.

Scott then went on to pay lip service to global warming.

Climate change is “shifting the range” of weather, said Scott, while noting that many winters in the last decade have been warmer than the historical norms.

“It doesn’t mean that we can’t get cold winters… if you were to project 30 to 40 years in the future, we could still get some pretty harsh winters.”

“It’s just that the odds are going to tilt towards milder winters,” Scott said.

Uh huh. It’s going to be colder and snowier, and yet, and yet, “the odds are going to tilt towards milder winters.”

Talk about having it both ways! What a hoax!

http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Meteorologist+forecasts+more+cold+snow+this+winter+ than+last+year/7609813/story.html

Thanks to Mike Wurm for this link

 

29 Responses to Top Canadian meteorologist forecasts harsher, colder winter than last year

  1. Alex says:

    wrightttt, “milder winter”…i remember last winter forecast for Europe, same old “mild” and yet hundred of people died lol :(
    Anyone have a winter forecast for Europe?

  2. Willard Ferch says:

    From what I understand, the last snow England had was not even forecast; it fooled the weather service and everyone else. Who wants to make some bets on the weather? Count me out! Fiddlin

  3. johnthe1st says:

    If it ain’t from Piers Corbyn or Joe Bastardi its just white noise.

    • AndrewS says:

      nice pun, White Noise. When the white noise starts piling up, we’ll be hearing it from the media, except they’ll be giving us Brown Noise about global warming! Fight Hype with Truth! It will all become evident eventually.

  4. Dennis Schmitz says:

    I’ve always said global warming was nonsense but am running out of ammunition. Here in St. Louis we haven’t had a morning below zero since before the late 1990′s and that’s a record. Since then we’ve had many record highs and this year an all time record warm year. Record lows just don’t occur anymore. Here we are about to enter December and highs this coming weekend and early next week will likely top 70 degrees with no cold air expected in the next 2 weeks. I’ll keep preaching global warming is nonsense, but will look like an idiot in the process.

    • johnthe1st says:

      Pretty sure you guys had some real hard winters in 2006/07 and 2008/09. I remember getting reports form my soldiers about ice storms etc.

    • Wayne D says:

      Dennis, I’m sorry if I step on anyone’s toes and I also want this global warming bunk to be nonsense. But after reading your post I feel somewhat frustrated by the way the weather’s been here in south east Texas for some time now. We’ve mostly had record highs and I honestly can’t remember any record lows for the last decade or so. And I really should know since I’ve been keeping an ongoing record for the last 40 years of temperatures in our area. Record lows just don’t seem to occur anymore around here and today the weather was ridiculous. I was outside trying to work on a new front porch that I’ve just about completed building and I must say it was downright stinking hot for this time of year. I’ve also been preaching against man made global warming and just keep hoping for a change in our weather.

  5. Perdavid says:

    Don´t forget the climate meeting in Qatar. The global warming saga goes on forever it seems. I hate them!

  6. jbird says:

    The Met office kept predicting warm winters for about the last three or four in Great Britain, then finally gave up, because they were dead wrong each time. People were starting to laugh at their forecasts.

  7. Georgie says:

    Re Dennis Schmitz…the reason for the lack of record lows and no subzero lows recently is the increased heat island at the airport due to the recent buildup of the airport

  8. Georgie says:

    Re Dennis Schmitz…the reason for the lack of record lows and no subzero lows recently is the increased heat island at the airport due to the recent buildup of the airport and next weeks warmup is no big deal

    • Robert says:

      This article says “Ancient forests locked under ice tens of thousands of years ago are beginning to melt and rot, releasing vast amounts of greenhouse gases into the air.”

      So let me ask you. How did those ancient forests get there if we’re now undergoing “unprecedented” global warming? Don’t those ancient forests prove, all by themselves, that it was once warmer than today? It had to have been, how else could they have thrived and prospered?

  9. fred says:

    What ever happens CO2 is not responsible and never will be.

  10. DrFurstDunaharm says:

    I so wish the globe was warming. Longer growing seasons = more food = less heating = lower prices all around = more jobs = good.

    Unfortunately, the GLOBAL record doesn’t play out that way. Thus the abrupt and unilateral change in name from AGW to CC. Of course the climate changes continually, based on the PDO, AMO, TSI and last (but definitely least) greenhouse gases. And the most modest of the greenhouse gases – of course it’s CO2.

    I understand it’s a (very small) driver, but it’s the only one we have the capacity to change at all. That’s why all the attention is lavished upon it. Unfortuantely, no matter how much attention (read money)is lavished on this little whipping boy – there is essentially NO change to be made in the total system. That’s very akin to giving the tick a course of anti-biotics and hoping the dog will benefit. Oops, I probably just gave big pharma an idea.

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m as green as they get. I think we should get ever better at reducing emmissions through improvements in efficiency and new alternatives. If nothing else, then to end the lazy poisoning of our air and water. These things will (and do) have ramifications.

    But… to think that we can change the weather by reducing something as innocuous as CO2 – fugedaboudit.

  11. Steven Rowlandson says:

    I concurr with John the 1st.

    Too many people are infected by the global warming propaganda especially in the media and scientific community.

  12. Neil s uk says:

    Netweather have put out a winter forecast for the uk. they are predicting 80% chance of well below average temps for dec and jan and average for feb
    http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=winter-forecast-2012;sess=

  13. Rhys Jaggar says:

    Well, there’s certainly a healthy snow coverage over much of the Northern Hemisphere right now. East of the Urals across to Alaska and across Canada and the NW USA, snow cover is virtually complete. Europe hasn’t had much yet, although it’s about to get significantly colder.

  14. Caroline in West Virginia says:

    DO NOT BE COMPLACENT, FOLKS!

    According to Robert Felix, we are at the meeting point of FIVE climactic cycles:

    1. Every 178 years we have the solar retrograde cycle
    2. Every 360 years we have the Little Ice Age cycle

    3. Quadruple that 360 years and we have the 1440 year cycle.. and this is what I find interesting.
    This cycle was discovered in the Greenland ice sheet, and it causes even harsher conditions than the 360 year cycle.. for those TX and MO folks, it brings with it DRAMATIC AND RAPID CHANGES IN CLIMATE. DROUGHT IN SOME AREAS, WET IN OTHERS.. and worldwide glacier expansion… this is happening right now. This cycle is related to internal oscillations in the ocean-climate system, probably caused by increasing underwater volcanism, which is triggered by ongoing changes in geomagnetic intensity (the earth’s magnetic field has lost 65% of its strength in the past 2,000 years and a magnetic North migration towards the Ukraine.. 50 miles a year.. is WELL underway). This is triggered by changes in the sun’s intensity. Our climate plunged into frigid conditions 4,200 years ago, 2,800 years ago and 1,400 years ago..

    4. multiply THAT cycle by 8 and you get 11,520.. this is right on the 11,500 year Ice Age cycle.

    5. We are also right on the cusp of the 100,000 year Ice Age cycle..

    THAT should be enough to convince you.. if you haven’t read Ice Age Now, you need to.. that is where the chronology and details of the above recurring cycles are extensively researched and revealed to us.

  15. Just remember that an ice age event is ALWAYS precluded by a slight global rise in temperature. Temps have basically been holding steady for last several years. Climate cycles are very repetitive on the grand scale, just as day to day changes happen. Ever notice that just before a cold snap, your temps rise rapidly,then take a nose dive in matter of hours. That is exactly what is taking place now, so get your blankets and be prepared!

  16. Joseph Gerardi says:

    I read Bob Felix’s book too, Caroline. He makes a compelling case for magnetic reversal and an on coming ice age. The data is there. Don’t worry about the global warmist’s. I just hope we haven’t distorted our lives too much when it becomes obvious that we’re in a coolng cycle.

  17. georgie says:

    Thanks to AIRPORT SPRAWL, an more recent extention to the heat island where airports that have seen recent (since the last 2-3 decades)growth and expansion with more concrete and asphalt runrays and tarmac- thats one big reason for the lack of record official lows and i bet you if St Louis’ airport didn’t grow in the last decade there would be at least a few more record lows when it get chilly enough.that makes more of a difference when airports’ heat island “catches up” with the downtown’s heat island.City v.s airport circa 1980 airport 3-5 degrees+ colder per monthly average,even more for avg minimium temps. City v.s. airport today and since at least 15-25 years ago, a much more expansive airport only 0.5-1 degree colder than center city. Applies more or less to every major city in the world.Minimum temps several degrees higher at airports than 1980 and before.So St louis’”record”? lack of sub-zero lows since late 1990s is the heat island.it did come close in some recent years,just no cigar while i bet the same extent of arctic air blasts in the more recent years would still see that minus temp in the same pattern 30 years ago and before and still did 20-30 miles away from the city and heat island extent.

  18. sonny says:

    Thanks to AIRPORT SPRAWL, a more recent extention to the heat island where airports that have seen recent (since the last 2-3 decades)growth and expansion with more concrete and asphalt runrays and tarmac- thats one big reason for the lack of record official lows and i bet you if St Louis’ airport didn’t grow in the last decade there would be at least a few more record lows when it get chilly enough.that makes more of a difference when airports’ heat island “catches up” with the downtown’s heat island.City v.s airport circa 1980 airport 3-5 degrees+ colder per monthly average,even more for avg minimium temps. City v.s. airport today and since at least 15-25 years ago, a much more expansive airport only 0.5-1 degree colder than center city. Applies more or less to every major city in the world.Minimum temps several degrees higher at airports than 1980 and before.So St louis’”record”? lack of sub-zero lows since late 1990s is the heat island.it did come close in some recent years,just no cigar while i bet the same extent of arctic air blasts in the more recent years would still see that minus temp in the same pattern 30 years ago and before and still did 20-30 miles away from the city and heat island extent.

  19. John Knowles says:

    To Wayne D & others re warm weather.
    We are seeing meandering jet-stream activity where parcels of cold Arctic air are pushing S and to replace them, warmer air from more temperate latitudes is traveling further N than normal. A reasonable intro is at Carnkie Weather.
    http://carnkieweather.co.uk/?page=chart-jetstream
    The average effect of this Meridional jet-stream flow pattern is a cooling but where you live might well be under one of the warm loops.

    • AndrewS says:

      One Year ago, the warm loop was locked in place over N. America, accounting for the unusually mild winter(2011-12), and warm summer of ’12. This year will be different as the zonal component has returned.

  20. John Knowles says:

    Sir George Simpson(UK Met.1950s) proposed that ice-age on-set could only happen if the Arctic Polar Front migrated further S, permitting heavy snowfall over normally mild regions such as France. In his day the Polar Front only swept over the British Isles a few times during winter but to-day this is a regular occurrence, even during summer.
    This must have some connection with the cycles Caroline posted about earlier.

    • F. Guimaraes says:

      Thanks for the information, and Caroline too.
      We must pay attention to these general parameters, because the local ones are not really meaningful for the climate.


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